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Audiotel: A bitter observation

When we type on the internet the word clairvoyance by telephone and also “free clairvoyance” we find: “Approximately 212,000 results (0.25 seconds)” This proliferation of people likely to help others without payment can give us the image of a world where money is not the main thing and helping your neighbor is an international maxim. As Americans often mention “there is no free lunch”, in the sense that nothing is free and although we can consider audiotel customers as consenting and informed adults, it turns out that this legal system chains them to an addiction. There are a plethora of audiotel clairvoyance sites, priced at 0.34 cents per minute, or with an additive of 1.35 euros depending on the case, and are not philanthropic. To illustrate this comment, we will base ourselves on feedback, numerous in this area, from which INAD inherits thorny and often dramatic issues.

   1. Context First of all it is necessary to set the context, to cite just one of the best-known brands, cosmospace brings together (if we read its file in the company register) sub-brands which may appear independent to the newbie but the payment platform is the same. The centralization of information on your previous consultation is effective….although it is strictly prohibited by the CNIL and these firms contest the existence of this grouping of information. The psychics are “available” at a call center, a commercial synergy effect, very few only work on a single site Apart from that, everything else is legal and the customer’s consent during billing is systematically required, as well as information on the pricing of the additional minute…Where things go wrong is that clairvoyance is not free, your operator bill will attest to this, and despite a limitation of 29 euros, the consumer or applicant does not care. In fact, customers are ‘caught up’ by a system that is extremely well-functioning on a commercial level. The primary impact is therefore money, because once in audiotel your medium suddenly has an appointment or informs you that they cannot go into “pure” mediumship without pricing, the reactions in the event of refusal are variable, or even more incentive…for some. The second impact is that the profession, because many claim to be mediums, but there are few elected officials, does not include clairvoyance professionals. The gift, or the perception is there or not. Now we see under the terminology of medium, other terminology that is even less framed; coach, psychologist. Why are they on these sites…???       2. Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s stigmatization is not appropriate and appropriate because these are people who must also earn their living, but during an agreement to continue the consultation, the providence of coming across a “valid” medium and not a “pipoteur” is of the order of the lottery. Personally, some psychics have been successful, but the majority, and given the growing number, are only salespeople. It would be desirable for brands to advocate “less is more” at the risk of losing their credibility and sinking into an unrewarding image…   Not all psychics are crooks, there are honest people like everywhere else. I’ve had some, which very briefly tell you I see or I don’t see, which in . By minutes go straight to the point, they are: Julie (concise, do not overdo it), Thomas (precise, and meticulous in his answers), Lucas (verygood astrologer), Ysis, Anne sophie (without support and giving information not communicated beforehand)…   Furthermore, when you feel that you have had an “abuse” or a procedure to extend the consultation time, and the minutes pass very very quickly at this time, there is the possibility of making a complaint to the sales department. Certainly this does not result in a refund and is generally the result of long discussions, which must be duly justified, in the case of Cosmospace, Voyantissimes, Mirina, Claude Alexis, Wengo, Sabbat clairvoyance etc…. This is not the case for companies which act more wildly, not to mention the use of your bank details…   You simply have to be patient and be irreproachable about your previous actions. The advantage of these firms being established on the street is that things are a little more structured.   More limited practices are common, in particular more confidential firms push the vice to call you asking for “unpaid” for a consultation that did not take place, and encourage you to consult the great medium (unknown to the battalion) who is waiting for you, such is the case of Dussolier. A person calls you on a hidden number and tells you that you are in recovery proceedings… This is to position yourself in a situation of accountability, and the advice in these cases is to cut short immediately, take note of the references and, if you have the courage, file a complaint for attempted fraud. Here again things must be materialized, by recording or otherwise. We do not accuse without proof and gratuitously at the risk of falling within the framework of defamation, which can prove dangerous. Generally, the after-sales service is aware of the deviations, but the “cleaning is not done at the level of quality of service”.   3. Overtaking and drifting The transition is simple, the centralization of your information is effective, I was able to note quite surprisingly that as soon as you give your first name and your date of birth a “similar” discourse takes place, but there are exceptions. At the very beginning some, devoid of all perceptions, start by giving you an absurd and quite grotesque numerology and suddenly (the time to read their screen) give you quite precise details…strange…I have had several who cut themselves.   Then there are the “timers”, those who make it last, while you tell them from the start that time is running out…again some respect it but it’s not the majority, on the contrary. The various processes are as follows: - the lady in black, that one I don’t know why but she has a crazy activity, and what’s more, she’s a damn mean girl…then the negative waves, wow, wow, wow…which inevitably stresses you out, if you consult it’s because you’re not well, if you add that you’re also arriving in a disgusting stratosphere in terms of vibration that doesn’t relax you. And then obviously in your entourage there is a lady in black, only you don’t know if she is brunette, dressed in black etc…the possibilities are wide. - “I concentrate”, a deck of cards can be analyzed in a very short time, for good clairvoyants, A consultation theoretically lasts like crazy, 15 minutes, but you have pros of synapses and dialectical convolutions, while talking to you because there is rarely a moment of silence, we feel that the analysis of a drawing takes more time than expected and can drag on for 30 minutes. And often afterthis excess the draw is not finished….but the bill is steep, and your question unanswered… - quite strange advice of all kinds, which sometimes borders on the ridiculous… commercial coffee advice. - the assertions when you have the opposite real facts, The worst is that some of the same firm tell you the opposite…and when you “dare” to tell them that they are “messing up” a little and there we have “30 years of practice” and “God is my witness”…Style is the person in your life when nothing in the facts inclines you to see it, or how to keep a person in a harmful illusion, - coaching advice, here again we are not in a request for coaching but for mediumship. - etc…etc…   Here again everything depends on the honesty of your interlocutor, and unfortunately those who are trying to keep the clock ticking greatly harm those who do their job without abuse. As for seriousness, because we mention the term ethics, again so many surprises, there are some who do the dishes, eat, watch TV, sleep!! It’s no longer clairvoyance, it’s rather, “SOS friendship” at a prohibitive price…Everyone remembers the first scene of Santa Claus being trash…   If it wasn’t dangerous it would be extremely funny, but the danger is having a person convincing you of a jaw-dropping, question-inducing story. You arrive with a question, you leave with others, of course with no other outcome than to take out a subscription, because what happens is a bit like Zoro’s song happened “so what???”…“so what” And presto, private consultation or 140 euros to 280 euros per package or even more for the independents, you are conscious, but as several experiences on human behavior indicate, it is enough for your attention to be focused on one thing for your unconscious to elude the rest…the objective is I want to know…so we accept without really realizing it…    So out of more than 60 mediums consulted and around twenty numbers used, France and Belgium combined, you are entitled to 95% of speeches having nothing to do with the subject of your initial question, and which can go so far as to further disturb an already fragile person.   This has a serious impact on professionals who are parasitized by charlatans and on clients who can easily fall into strong dependence, the need for drastic selection is indisputable… I don’t know how much latitude real professionals have to put the growing pool of psychics in order and report the malfunction, as a customer I have expressed my dissatisfaction on numerous occasions…    4. The cure Money has no smell, as Emperor Vespalian said, and we are responsible for our actions but forewarned is forearmed.   So the advice for not falling into delusional consumption is - to write things down in black and white. If during a 30-minute consultation, no information is provided, it means that you have not identified the person corresponding to you.  -  to have visible indicators of your consumption allowing you to take stock.  - do not take the wrong remedy, a person in psychological fragility is often in denial and “consumes” as an antidote to their unhappiness in a compulsive manner, hence it is not a psychic who should be consulted but a psychologist.  - be lucid, which is not easy when you are disturbed, anxious, or worse. Lucidity allows you to avoid falling into a trap, and once again some (rare) clairvoyants are sufficiently honest and benevolent to stop you. Unfortunately, as the profession is not regulated, we are witnessing abuses putting people in dramatic situations.   Louis           

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Anonymous

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Anonymous

bjr,

je voudrais savoir si mon fils va continuer sa vie avec la fille qui l&#x27a rendu malheureux il y a quelques mois....
Merci

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Anonymous

bjr,

je voudrais savoir si mon ami va se marier avec une fille qu&#x27il a rencontré , en principe il se marie dans 1 mois.
Merci

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Anonymous

Je peux en temoigner, les clients qui appellent pour i une consultation de voyance sont rares, ils viennent acheter du reve. Moi nonplus je ne compte pas les fois ou l&#39on m&#39a raccroché au nez car j&#39annoncais un non retour, et derriere ils consultent jusqu&#39a trouver celui ou celle qui leur dira ce qu&#39ils veulent entendre, à chacun de prendre ses responsabilités: consultants et consultés. "Elle voit mal" quand elle vous dit que c&#39est fini, de plus les clients posent des questions sur leurs voisins, sur tout, nous prennent pour des gps, personnellement je pratique l voyance et non le voyeurisme, je refuse donc de repondre a certaines questions car c&#39est malain;alors ils pensent que "je vois mal" et cours trouver le medium "voyeur" qui repondra à tout sans complexe et sans remord; nous sommes loin des consultations d&#39antan, aujourdhui on vous demande l&#39heure d&#39un appel lol, "texto ou mail les nouveles" loin des grandes lignes qui feront leur chemin de vie; alors certe, les bons mediums voyants honnetes sont rares; mais les bons clients honnetes le sont tout autant.

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Anonymous

j&#39aimerais également témoigner. Lorsque je dis à une personne ce que d&#39autres ne lui ont pas dit, je me fais insulter et on me dit que "je ne vois pas " en me pressant "alors vous voyez,vous voyez pas? j&#39aime pas les cartes, alors vous avez des flashes?",pas une seconde de répit pour me concentrer, quinze fois la même question à laquelle j&#39ai déjà répondu. Finalement la personne me raccroche au nez et appelle aussitôt une autre voyante, posant encore la même question..combien de fois ai-je même été jusqu&#39à dire à des gens que la solution n&#39était pas dans des consultations de voyance? combien m&#39ont promis d&#39aller se coucher et de ne plus consulter? aussitôt ils appellent quelqu&#39un d&#39autre et reviennent me consulter. je leur dis &#39mais XXX vous ne m&#39aviez pas promis de ne plus appeler et de vous ouvrir au monde dans telle association?" réponse "oui mais je veux savoir si xx va revenir, d&#39autres voyantes me disent que oui". Durant des années ces personnes sont entretenues dans l&#39espoir d&#39un improbable retour...si vous leur dites la vérité, elles raccrochent ou vous insultent ou vous traitent d&#39incompétente, parceque 25 voyantes avant vous lui ont dit que xx allait revenir

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Anonymous

je suis toujours la personne du premier commentaire : oui beaucoup sont dans la douleur mais je persiste à dire que la plupart d&#39entre elles ne peuvent pas financièrement aller voir un psy et qu&#39elles ont une vraie réticence aussi.

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Anonymous

un voyant n&#39est ni un psy ni un coach et encore moins un punching ball !! Chaque chose a sa place de grâce. L&#39article peut vous aider à indiquer à votre client que le pb n&#39est pas là et lorsque j&#39ai traversé une phase de déni, qui arrive à tous, j&#39ai eu la chance d&#39avoir un voyant qui m&#39a dit que cela s&#39engageait vers une névrose...et que là il me conseillait vivement de prendre soin de ma santé. Ensuite il y a la formulation, et l&#39habilité de faire passer des messages, surtout quand on enchaîne des consultations les unes à la suite des autres, s&#39érode...et franchement je crois qu&#39il y a même saturation....de parler à un mur de douleurs, parce que les personnes qui s&#39obstinent à poser les mêmes questions sont dans la douleur...

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Anonymous

Il s&#39agit effectivement d&#39une attitude constructive oui de dire que la complaisance existera toujours tant que les gens appelleront uniquement un voyant pour s&#39en servir de psy ou de punching ball

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Je remercie louis pour la qualité de son article.
Mais aussi les commentaires effectués, nous avons un résumé qui me paraît des plus explicites
Il va s&#39en dire que je rejoins les débatteurs.merci à tous

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Anonymous

Je suis la personne du premier commentaire et je peux vous dire que le(la) client(e) aspire à la complaisance, ce qui est en soi est humain et lorsque je conseille un soutien psy je me heurte en prime au "je ne suis pas folle"...Si elles le disent..Il est vrai aussi que la complaisance rapporte, je ne le nie nullement mais à un moment donné il y a un déni de la réalité de la part du consultant : je pense en particulier à une personne qui attendait depuis 6 ans un retour qui n&#39aura jamais lieu....On entend beaucoup de choses et on sert de psy ce qui n&#39est pas en soi un délit tant que l&#39autre personne n&#39est pas mise en danger.

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Anonymous

L&#39usage de termes policés seraient bienvenues, les gens qui raccrochent "à la gueule" peuvent exister, mais ne sont pas je l&#39espère nombreux. chacun à ses histoires, mais les hommes consultent autant que les femmes. La complaisance contrairement à ce que mentionne le premier commentaire n&#39est pas ce que veut le client...La démagogie n&#39est pas forcément du ressort du professionnel, et vice versa. Maintenant il semble que ce soit des réponses de "professionnels" qui ne se remettent pas en cause, et remette sans appel en cause le client. Pensez vous que ce soit une attitude constructive...?

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Anonymous

Et oui c&#39est bien le problème dans la voyance. Sur 100 personnes qui consultes il y a un minimum de 75 qui appellent juste pour entendre ce qu&#39elles veulent entendre et non la vérité. et après ces mêmes personnes viennent crier au loup à l&#39INAD alors qu&#39elles sont responsable. Combien de fois je me suis moi aussi fait raccroché au nez avec insultes par ce que je ne disais pas comme les autre, je ne compte plus. Avant de venir crier au loup ici commencez donc a vous demander à cause de qui la complaisance existe. Demandez vous pourquoi vous avez appelez untel x fois par ce qu&#39il a dit oui au retour de votre mec et pourquoi vous avez insultez et raccrochez à la gueule de untel que vous n&#39avez jamais rappelé par ce qu&#39il vous a dit pas de retour.
Tant que des clientes fonctionneront comme ça, la complaisance continuera toujours puisque c&#39est la demande de la majorité. C&#39est bien beau d&#39avoir un redresseur de tord comme l&#39INAD ou aller pleurer, mais commencez donc par vous remettre en question.

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Anonymous

Je voudrais apporter mon expérience personnelle de l&#39autre côté de la barrière...Ce que vous dites est globalement vrai encore que je n&#39ai jamais subi de pressions concernant mon temps moyen de consultation parce que je rapporte en étant fiable mais ce système me permet de faire mes premiers avant de m&#39installer et je ne suis pas la seule dans ce cas; après évidemment chacun fait avec sa conscience....On ne peut néanmoins faire cesser les dérives qu&#39en partant ce que bcp aimeraient faire croyez-moi mais une autre vague d&#39embauche suivrait...Il m&#39est arrivé une fois d&#39avoir en consultation une personne qui avait consulté 60 voyants en 5 ans et 15 dans les 10 derniers jours : 14 apportaient une réponse positive et une (moi) une réponse négative : au lieu de s&#39interroger cette personne a décrété que j&#39étais une incapable ....

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